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Post by nemouk on Sept 20, 2021 10:53:34 GMT
I guess a bit like the England men's side 10 years or so ago, it's much harder to get into this current team than out of it. Apparently this is the first summer we've capped two players in the same year (Dunkley & Dean) since Nat Sciver broke in which must be 6-7 years ago.
There's a culture of backing the players you have which I think comes from having a small pool of players. Now the player pool is significantly expanding, it'll be very interesting to see how that changes. But going from little to no depth to a point where could now play a very exciting possibles v probables game is a huge step forward for England.
And since it's making XIs and I love that:
Probables: (50 over game this)
Beaumont Winfield-Hill Knight Sciver A Jones Dunkley Brunt Ecclestone Shrubsole Cross Farrant
Possibles:
Wyatt Capsey E Jones Adams Lamb Elwiss B Smith Villiers Dean Arlott Wong
That still leaves out some great spinners (Hartley, Gordon, Hannah Jones) which is clearly the deepest field. No obvious backup keeper though, so lots riding on Amy Jones keeping her form up. Beaumont and LWH have both kept I believe.
And that's without raiding Scotland for the Bryce sisters (which seems likely to happen at some point)
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Post by Balladeer on Sept 21, 2021 6:45:35 GMT
Australia Women's Team of now > Australia Men's Team of the 90s, relative to the rest of the world. This is ridiculous.
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Post by nemouk on Sept 21, 2021 7:22:08 GMT
Yup. The batting order in particular in this series is just silly. Nine wicket win and the next batter is is Ellyse bloody Perry.
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Post by nemouk on Sept 21, 2021 12:43:57 GMT
Er, bowling Lea.
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Post by nemouk on Sept 21, 2021 12:54:39 GMT
Molly Penfold has just bowled the biggest no ball I've ever seen. She must have been a metre past the line.
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Post by nemouk on Sept 21, 2021 15:20:23 GMT
78/7 to 178/9 and still going is borderline criminal failure to finish off the tail.
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Post by waughandpeace on Sept 21, 2021 17:27:12 GMT
England should just start reversing the batting order for the 4th and 5th ODIs at this point!
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Post by Balladeer on Sept 26, 2021 15:00:50 GMT
Danny Wyatt doing a thoroughly decent finisher job there.
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Post by waughandpeace on Sept 26, 2021 21:59:18 GMT
Awesome end to the summer, even if NZ's hearts possibly weren't fully in it. But yeah, nice to see what they can do when not scrabbling around for 250, great scoring!
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Post by waughandpeace on Sept 30, 2021 7:25:07 GMT
A test match you say?! Excellent stuff. India holding up pretty well so far against this monstrous Aus team
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Post by Balladeer on Sept 30, 2021 14:34:32 GMT
With a helping hand from England Men's most (only?) obdurate batter, R. Ayne.
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Post by waughandpeace on Oct 2, 2021 22:24:45 GMT
Incredibly, Ellyse Perry now the first Australian to reach 5000 international runs and 300 international wickets. Shane Watson the closest bloke (9 wickets short)
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Post by pierredelafranchesca on Oct 4, 2021 9:35:03 GMT
Incredibly, Ellyse Perry now the first Australian to reach 5000 international runs and 300 international wickets. Shane Watson the closest bloke (9 wickets short) I was quite taken back by that stat too, incredible to think that a team that was so so dominant for 20 years of test cricket did it in the absence of a 'genuine' all rounder - similarly so, the dominant WI teams that preceded them didn't have one either.....maybe impacted by fewer ODIs and T20Is? As for the man in bold......nearly 3000 runs and 200 wickets in tests..... Perry has joined an elite club of cricketers with 5,000 runs and 300 wickets in international cricket. The only cricketers to have reached this landmark are Moeen Ali, Dwayne Bravo, Shakib Al Hasan, Daniel Vettori, Chaminda Vaas, Shahid Afridi, Andrew Flintoff, Abdul Razzaq, Shaun Pollock, Sanath Jayasuriya, Jacques Kallis, Carl Hooper, Chris Cairns, Wasim Akram, Imran Khan, Kapil Dev, and Ian Botham.
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Post by nemouk on Oct 4, 2021 10:03:24 GMT
Aussie men have had quite a few bowlers who could bat fairly well (Benaud) and batters who could bowl fairly well (Waughs) but not really any true all rounders of any quality - Watson is probably the closest. Probably some quite interesting reasons behind that.
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Post by pierredelafranchesca on Oct 4, 2021 13:24:07 GMT
Aussie men have had quite a few bowlers who could bat fairly well (Benaud) and batters who could bowl fairly well (Waughs) but not really any true all rounders of any quality - Watson is probably the closest. Probably some quite interesting reasons behind that. Maybe its because they were so strong that they didn't 'need' an all rounder, with the Aussie top order and ability to destroy everyone with a 4 man bowling attack they could pretty much play their strongest batters and bowlers without needing to rely on allrounders. I imagine someone like Watson would have bowled a hell of a lot more if he'd been English or a Saffer for example and he'd have made the 300 wicket mark
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